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  • #1544
    Avatar photoDrGeorgeMiklas
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    The long wait for Encore 6 is excruciatingly painful. I am dreaming of a day when Mr. Don Williams will contact me personally to notify me that Encore 6 is ready. Mr. Williams, please use this email: [email protected]

    Is anyone else dreaming the same dream?

    #1545
    Avatar photoBernard Rey
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    Well the “late Fall” deadline is only ten days ahead, now. Let’s hope it won’t be delayed! 😉

    #1978
    Avatar photoAdmin
    Keymaster

    Update: I am currently working on Encore 6 full time and hope to have it ready by Thanksgiving.

    Thank you for your patience.

    #3255
    Avatar photoDrGeorgeMiklas
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    Don Williams, is Encore V6 ready yet? Please say so.

    #3257
    Avatar photoJohannes
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    Still hopeful…dreaming about Encore 6…
    Well, as long as my Encore 5 is running on Windows 11, there’s no real rush… but I fear that many Encore users will think otherwise (especially the many Mac users) and won’t wait (did not wait) anymore… many of them have already switched to other software. ..
    But I also think that many Encore users will happily return to Encore if Encore 6 ever becomes available… at a reasonable price – since many are already spending some money on other software and additional scanning software to replace their old ones files to use – so Encore 6 should not be too expensive…

    #3259
    Avatar photoriojazz
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    I don’t actually care what it costs if
    1) it doesn’t crash all the time and
    2) it exports existing Encore files as Music XML properly

    #3260
    Avatar photoTimo
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    I want to encourage everybody working with Encore 6 to get it ready. Until that my method to survive as a Mac user is to use Mojave in two old laptops. So I’m still productive with Encore 5, but how long… However, I won’t switch to any other program before I necessarily have to.

    #3353
    Avatar photoMario2
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    A dream is a dream until it becomes reality.
    As “Musiker” already said: As long as Encore 5 runs on Windows computers, Windows users can still dream.
    It will probably be more difficult for Mac users. Hang in there guys!
    Personally, I’ve gotten so used to Encore that it will be difficult to switch.
    I have Finale’s little brother, but I don’t get on at all with the lyrics input. The input is a real pain. It may be that you can learn it, but if you don’t use the software every day, you forget a lot of things.
    Musescore is just as user-unfriendly. I still haven’t managed to create a simple guitar tab with Musescore.
    The only alternative for me is Encore 6, if it remains as user-friendly as Encore 5.

    I hope Don Williams is in the best of health and manages to make the impossible come true: Encore 6!

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    #3393
    Avatar photoMike Halloran
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    “2) it exports existing Encore files as Music XML properly”

    At least MusicXML 3.0. Very few apps have incorporated v. 4.0 from 2022 or the 3.1 stopgap from seven years ago.

    I’m attending an event in a few weeks with Michael Good, the retired inventor of MusicXML. It will surprise me if the subject comes up at all during the course of the evening.

    #3424
    Avatar photoSmoothie
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    I was surprised to receive notification that Finale was packing it in. I had upgraded to v27 when I got a new PC awhile back, thinking I would force myself to plow through all of the arbitrary counterintuitive convolutions and get good enough at it to have producing my scores be an expedient and, if not painless, a relatively tolerable procedure. But I kept returning to my venerable Encore 4.5.5 to produce my lead sheets, with all its little quirks/bugs (including some new ones when running it on windows 11), as it was overall reliable, mostly logical and very speedy (compared to Finale). As many of you know, Finale is pushing its users to switch over to Dorico – of which I know nothing. I’m just thinking how great it would be if the gentleman who has been working on the new version of Encore would choose this moment to announce that the release of a reborn Encore was truly impending. And an excellent business decision for him too. What better time than when Finale is casting many of us aside? Anyone out there using Dorico and loving it?

    #3425
    Avatar photoMario2
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    True words…
    I don’t know anyone who works with Dorico and have no experience with it myself.
    In my opinion, Finale was far too complicated to use right from the start. This could also be recognized by the fact that the company KLEMM,
    the German distributor of Finale, published a lot of practice books without which Finale was not manageable.
    As I’ve written here before, I bought Songwriter, the simplified version of Finale. Here, too, I had to buy a book where everything was described in detail.
    I then spent more time leafing through this book than writing scores.

    Anyway, I mentioned elsewhere in this forum that now would be the ideal time to release a modern Encore 6 and offer hundreds of stranded Finale users a new sheet music program.
    That would be a brilliant business move.

    #3431
    Avatar photoMike Halloran
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    Songwriter was last offered in 2012, correct? A friend of mine still uses it over Windows 10. Since I have PrintMusic and Finale 2014.5, I can run them on my Mojave Mac, the same one I use for Encore 5. Although Finale 27 also runs on that MacBook, why 2014.5? The 32bit versions of Finale have the Band-in-a-Box plug-in, a huge timesaver for infomercial scores on a deadline back when those were a thing. I may have to run it again someday.

    I have Dorico Pro 5, Finale 27 and a bunch of other apps. Finale does all my heavy lifting, something that Encore could never do.

    Having had it since v.2 in 2018, I’ll be exploring Dorico to see if I get used to it. It tries to force you into Elain Gould’s rules as laid out in her 702 page book, Behind Bars…. By version 5, it’s fairly elegant once you get used to the workflow. You can change everything in Layout Mode.

    I still want Encore 6, dammit. Nothing is as fast or easy for my church and lead sheet work. If the printed output didn’t look so bad, I would still be happy with Encore 5, frankly. Ties look good on the screen but slurs don’t and both suuuuuuuuuck!!!! when printed in a way that is absolutely unacceptable. I’m even ok with the MusicXML 1.3 output though xml 3.0 is much, much, Much better.

    #3439
    Avatar photoMario2
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    Mike, I have to correct myself…
    I own PrintMusic and not Songwriter.
    I’m still getting totally confused with all the names of the sheet music programs.
    But the same applies to PrintMusic. I bought a user book but it’s frustrating to enter lyrics in PrintMusic when you’re used to the straightforward input in Encore.

    I no longer do anything at all in PrintMusic and have transferred all the scores to Encore.
    Funny. PrintMusic uses the same extension for its files (.mus) as MusicTime. Since I still have old MusicTimes files on my computer, PrintMusik asks me every time I call up the software whether I should reserve the .mus extension just for PrintMusik.

    #3446
    Avatar photoMike Halloran
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    A long, long time ago… Finale could open MT and Encore files—I go back to those days. Otherwise, I converted my MusicTime files to Encore decades ago. Last I checked, Encore on the Mac still opens them—I think but won’t swear to it.

    Being a Print Music owner, you can take advantage if the $149 crossgrade offer to Dorico. This includes a license to Finale 27 with MusicXML 4.0 and a year of tech support. 27 will open your Print Music files and save copies as .musx, the Finale format introduced in PM/Finale 2014.

    #3511
    Avatar photoJohannes
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    Available Winter 2024

    Wow!

    Something changed! Something happened!

    The date on the front page has been changed to Winter 2024!

    we will see…

    Everyone have A Nice Day!

    Johannes

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