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September 29, 2024 at 9:48 pm in reply to: If you moved on from Encore, what are you now using? #3461gdelangheParticipant
Can’t even laugh at you Encore addicts any more. JUST too sad. Still have Encore 5.0.4 Just don’t use it. Too outdated. Can’t handle xml or even do grace notes easily. Been using Finale with ease with brilliant results. Same with Sibelius. Moving on to Dorico now. I’m 72 and don’t mind the some learning curve to engage a great new ( and most modern) software available. Since Dorico has a completely functional trial, why not download and check it out while you wait months and years for Encore 6.0?
And since it will need to compete with the powerhouses mentioned, what on earth would make you think the new re-written Encore will be simplistic? With no learning curve? AND will you be expecting some level of support? Will I download and check out Encore 6.0 if it has a trial version. Sure. When it is available in fall of 2025. or maybe fall of 2026? And like Mr Halloran, I use Finale and Sibelius no problem. Wish they had a laughing tears emoji I could close with.gdelangheParticipantWell, for Encore to include the capabilities Sibelius and Finale have, it will no longer be the decades old simplicity it was. I guess people still drive the outdated Model T because they can’t figure out how to turn on and off heat, air conditioning, wipers or use an automatic transmission or an electric starter.
gdelangheParticipantSad. last Encore 2013, it is now 2024 headed into April. Just wondering WHO could possibly be interested in decades long torment like this. Sort of like the guy the goes to the same bar each weekend and ends up getting beaten up, despite the fact there’s dozens of other bars. When you are admiring his two black eyes and swollen lip at coffee, you ask him ‘Why on earth do you keep going back?” He replies “Because it’s my favorite bar, where else would I go?” Really wish they had emojis on this page, I’d put the laughing hysterically with tears streaming down the face one.
gdelangheParticipantI’m 72 and keep learning new things to keep the mind young. Learned Finale in 2017 when it became apparent Encore had died. The common thread in the ‘waitin’ for the day’ (for years) Encore crowd is ‘I don’t learn new things’ So, I guess learning a new song would be out too. Again, for Encore 6.0 to compete with Finale, Sibelius, etc. it will need to massively upgrade the decade old (DECADE OLD!) Encore 4.5 . As to the intuitive part, try entering grace or cue notes! To update and include all the new functions will require a learning curve. That will be no less easier or harder then learning any other program. But one of the things that surprised me about learning Finale was how quickly it happened, largely in part to the great support from the Finale Forum and Finale Help. Apart from Encore 6.0 one day appearing, and let’s assume it does, is there any reason to believe support will magically appear? But, I’ll check in every month for “NOTE: At this time there are no products being sold or none to be downloaded. This will only occur when Encore 6 is released.” And, just completed another score in Finale in the time it took me to dictate this.
gdelangheParticipantGood luck people. I’ll check back this fall to read “NOTE: At this time there are no products being sold or none to be downloaded. This will only occur when Encore 6 is released.” Interesting that since no-one has any solid idea what Encore 6.0 will look like, it would seem reasonable it will need a learning curve to learn the ‘new’ Encore. If it’s going to try to compete with Finale, Sibelius and others it can no longer be simplistic as I find 5.0.4.875 from 2013 is. It can barley handle the old xml and CANNOT handle .musicxml, or .mxl , it is cumbersome to input grace and cue notes. No need to go on, there’s a long list. I, like many took a little time when I got Encore, to learn to use it. I did the same for Finale and Sibelius. Turned out to be a small learning curve I was surprised to find. Especially with their support and forums! You get TONS of help. You can download demos of Finale and Sibelius to check them out. If you’ve got time to wait patiently (absurdly) for years, you would have been fluent with one of the others by now (and happy). But, check in every month for your regular dose of “NOTE: At this time there are no products being sold or none to be downloaded. This will only occur when Encore 6 is released.” Ah, just completed another score in Finale in the time it took me to dictate this.
gdelangheParticipantReally, no idea. It would seem Don Williams has no idea either. Like many long suffering Encore users (5.0.4.875 from 2013) I long ago moved on to Finale and Sibelius. Who both have stellar support. I’ve been opening it for the last 2 years to see the ‘NOTE: At this time there are no products being sold or none to be downloaded. This will only occur when Encore 6 is released.’ eternal flag. And like many, I would need a big incentive to even check it out. Certainly a trial download. But even then, who would lay out cash for this kind of no support. Not me.
gdelangheParticipantI still have Encore 5.0.4.875 2013 circa. I endured the endless stall of previous owners. Goes without saying, but realistically we’re still in the same endless misery loop. There are not enough expletives to adequately express my dis-satisfaction. I downloaded Score Writer 5.0 and it is Encore with a different name, really. Except it won’t open Encore files. It does import xml, mxl and musicxml perfectly. Something Encore 5 was so out of date it couldn’t do. So, since it has all the functionality and Don Williams has all the code it is truly beyond comprehension why Encore 6.0 is not arrived. Also why I, like many have gone to Finale, Sibelius and MuseScore.
So, Mike, have you downloaded and test driven Score Writer?
This is not meant as a complaint letter, regardless of how it may be construed. Which is why no nasty words used. But if a loyal Encore fan can’t vent, what is the point. This perpetual stalling worries me that ongoing problems will be addressed in the same delinquent manner.
gdelangheParticipantI have Encore 5.0.4.875 Runs fine on Windows 11. But like everyone else, I’m just checking in to see if there’s any updates to “release fall of 2022” As Dr Seuss said “This is like the unicorn – it is rumoured to exist, but I doubt I will see any.”
gdelangheParticipantI have Encore 5.0.4.875 Runs fine on Windows 11. But like everyone else, I’m just checking in to see if there’s any updates to “release fall of 2022” As Dr Seuss said “This is like the unicorn – it is rumoured to exist, but I doubt I will see any.”
gdelangheParticipantSigh…………………………………..Seems we’ve been on this “NO INFO” before…………
Release date being fall, now winter, now November…………
Are there any beta testers who can give us a glimmer? -
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