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“I do have a version 4.5.6 of Encore running in a High Sierra virtual machine.”
and it works?!?!?
4.5.6 was a free beta best described as horrible and caused a lot of problems with 5. Encore 5.0.7 works over High Sierra but much better over Mojave (after every trace of 4.5.6 is gone from the system).
As many times as people have banged the drum for Harmony Assistant, I have yet to open a MTD or Encore file in it where the result was useable. Not once, not ever and I’ve revisited this a few times over the last 15 years or so.
Encore 5 will open MTD 4 files. Since I no longer own a Mac that can run Encore 4.5.5 or earlier, I don’t know what is required to open those old files. I converted my MTD 1 & 2 files to Encore nearly 20 years ago, then to Encore 5 about a decade ago.
“I’ll keep my eyes open for anyone selling a registered version of encore.”
The company that sold Encore 5 is gone. No one should be selling it. There are some demo copies online but you can’t Print or Save with those.
We have been told that the new company developing Encore 6 may have a release by November this year. It will open Encore 5 and MTD 4 files. Whether it opens earlier files remains to be seen. There will be a demo available so that you can try before you buy.
Andre,
The full installer is 73.7MB, too big for email. I have emailed a download link to you. As I have posted, this works best over MacOS 10.14 Mojave and should show version 5.0.6 1303m in the “About Encore” window.
There are a number of download links online but those are for the demo or older versions.
“ Wasn’t there something about different updaters for the Windows versions?
Depending on whether you got your software from GVOX or Passport LCC.”Something like that. We were supposed to be able to update from within Encore 5, too. I think that may have worked once for me — of course, that server no longer exists.
Good luck with that.
Since Encore 5 was notorious for being unable to older versions, depending on the build, it may be presumptuous to expect that Encore 6 will be able to open anything older than E5.
On the Mac, 5.0.7 can’t open older than 5.0.5 unless booted into a much older MacOS on a PPC. To convert my files, I had to use 3 Macs running 4 versions of the OS, 2 builds of E4 and 2 of E5.
So, while it will be nice to have a version that opens everything ever created… again, good with that.
Thanks, Andre,
I lost count of the Mac versions other than 5.0.6 1303m being the final build of 5.0.7 (1333 was a typo on my part). I’ve no idea why Richard and crew came up with an asinine numbering system.
Cloning is not necessary—which is good because it will not create a bootable drive in Mojave.
Download the Mojave installer and install MacOS 10.14 on the new drive. After booting into it, you can use Migration Assistant to bring everything over (you will be prompted to do this).
If you want a minimum sized, Encore only, boot drive, bring all your network and System settings in Migration Assistant but cherrypick the applications and documents that you want to bring over. This will avoid privilege issues that can occur with copy and paste or sneakernet.
Once done, Encore should ask for your serial number and you should be good to go. If not, find the Encore Fonts on the old drive and copy them to the new desktop (Migration Assistant should have moved them over already)
. Double-click on them and then click on the Install button.Andre,
What is the official build of Encore 5.04 for Windows? Did it go through multiple releases like the Mac version did?
The reason I ask is that there were a few releases of 5.0.7 with the final build showing “5.0.6 1333m” in the About window. That’s the version that actually works and MacOS 10.14 Mojave is the only OS where it works well.
I never saw an Encore 5 CD. In any case, Passport/GVOX/Passport Designs, the company that released Encore 5, is dead and there are no legitimate download sites for any version. Passport Music, the new company developing Encore 6 does not offer older versions for sale or download.
That said, it can be found the last I looked. You are looking for the final build of 5.0.7. When open and you click on About Encore, it will display as 5.0.6 1303m.I do not know if your current serial number opens the Mac version but it might. 5.0.6 1303m runs quite well over MacOS 10.14.6 Mojave but will not run over Catalina or later.
I have no idea.
Encore 5 can open MTD 4 files but cannot open MTD 1 or 2 files. Last I checked, I could open them in Encore 4.12 (probably when I concerted all of mine 20+ years ago) . I have never seen a MTD 3 file so I can’t answer to that.
Are you sure that’s not possible? I ask because I’ve done it accidentally a few times over the years. Cross staff beaming (pg 227 in the Encore 5 manual) may be required, too.
“ Just buy a 2011 Macbook Air for $80 on Ebay and install Encore, that is what I am doing,
It runs great on that computer”It is possible to hack the MacOS on a 2011 so that it can run 10.14 Mojave. If you’ve not done this, Google it for any of the videos or web sites that explain how. There are many features that work better but the fact that the Barlines dialog box displays correctly was enough for me.
Encore 5.0.7 runs much, much better over Mojave. All Macs introduced 2012–2018 will run Mojave. 2012 iMacs, Minis and MacBooks are cheap on eBay and Craigslist etc. The only downside is that the mechanical hard drives are often failing but they’re easy to replace (1TB MX500 is $47 on Amazon). I have a couple 2012 MacBook Pros that I just took in and upgraded with SSDs.
If Encore 6 does not arrive before I get my Mac Studio, I will keep one of those 2012s and use it with an MDP cable hooked up to one of my 27” monitors just to run Encore.
“ The learning curve for Sibelius is looking more and more enticing!”
You should download the demo, of course. I also recommend checking out Finale.
The most “Encore like” app is Overture, also written by Don Williams. There’s a demo so have a look. Don has posted over there that Overture 6, when it is ready, will open Encore 5 files.
The last paid upgrade was offered by GVOX in 2008, later called Passport Designs, now out of business. That’s the only “reputation” at stake here and that company is dead.
Although Passport Music bought the IP of Passport Designs last year, they have no customers and won’t till Encore 6 is released (if that happens).
I was able to convert Gary’s Music Time Deluxe 4 file. Loading it on my MacOS Mojave boot drive and double-clicking was all it took and it opened right up in Encore 5.0.7 for Mac. Although .mus file extensions can sometimes confuse a Mac into opening Finale instead, that wasn’t a problem and I did not have to change the extension. From there, I was able to use the Export menu to save as .mid and .xml. As the file was only one page, this took less than a minute. Printing to PDF in Preview, Apple’s bundled PDF app, likewise, took a few seconds.
Because of this, I am confident that Encore 6 should open the same file types without a problem.
What I don’t know is if Encore 5 can open MTD files earlier than v.4. I never had MTD 3 and will have to search my archives to see if I still have any MTD 1 and 2 files. I would have converted them to Encore over 25 years ago but there is the possibility that I may the original files.
